This was well argued and largely expresses my own opinion on the issue. Ultimately, we gain nothing from hitching our horses, so to speak, to either end of the spectrum in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I think Guillaume Faye's advice was best that we stay neutral in that conflict as we continue to work towards our own stability and homogeneity.
He is really is pure fire. I've been told by others who knew him better that towards the end of his life he became more sympathetic to Israel (I haven't seen that), but in his book 'Convergence of Catastrophes,' whose English edition I edited, he basically argued that taking a firm side on either end of the spectrum doesn't really help us. I think in some cases it only fractures us further into "pro-Israel" Euro nationalists and "pro-Palestinian" Euro nationalists, as if having certain feelings about events in the Middle East qualifies someone as a better or worse nationalist here at home.
We all have personal opinions and sympathies, of course, but allowing that conflict to guide our own path or activism is distracting and ultimately has little to do with our own goals.
It only helps globalism to buy into this drama and people become more invested in it than what’s happening in front of them. I’m neither for or against Israel… and they are not for me. Until they can learn to make friends instead of expect allegiance… and until they can distinguish themselves instead of always double down to protect any and all Jews even in the wrong then they are incapable of being helpful to anyone else. I will cover this in the next article and how they are so rabidly friend/enemy in distinction that all they can see or make is enemies. Zionism was founded in direct opposition to racialism ie Jews that wanted to assimilate with other Europeans. Instead they mix with other races of Jews in attempt to create a new race, with disregard or contempt for other whites.
I believe my account was removed from Twitter for no reason because I’m vocally against buying into the false dichotomy. It serves a purpose for the current paradigm to keep it going.
Simply put, I think Rose demonstrated very well that both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are complicated and - crucially - *compromised* so that hard-core, doctrinal support for either side becomes unhelpful.
This was scattered and angry but I think I disagree with iut.
Yes, the area ha a long history of contentions but the Ottoman's mastered the art of empire or 'Schlamperie" as the Austrians called it and a multipilcity of people including Jews lived there well enough until the Madate, when waves of European Jews migrated, mostly Communists and Zionists
What we call "anti-Semtiism" toady is a clash of cultures extended into a class conflict in America, between teh "Zionist" upper classes ruling Israel and Euro-America, completely divorced from European and American masses, growing wider ever since the Epic Battle of Good and Evil in WW2.
No state compelled to iquidae 1/4 of its population has any right to exist nor does any state condoing it, muchless financing it. They have both lost their legitimacy.
The same people who brought us Muslim iimigration and "diversity" now squeal becasue some of these diverse people really don't like Jews in ways Westerners never imagined, and they are also behind teh anti-White campaign : 'Zionists" isn't the best term but the best at the moment.
White Western masses may not be Mulsim nor Arab but politically, we are "Palistinians" in our own lands, just like the Palistinians : Realpolitik.
Zionists are the common enemy.
China has united Isreal;s regional enemies as never before and the Arab militias, Hamas, Hezbollahd, Houthis, Islamic Jihad, ect, are afr more effective and giving the vaunted IDF a fight that Sclomo clearly isn't prepared for and neitrher is America, $33 trillion in debt and our Treaury Bonds not selling like they used while Saudi Arabia and China trdfe in national currencies.
The Epic Myth presribed America as "Policeman of teh World" and Bretton Wood unlimited financing to do it. : "Never Again!" would teh evil "Nazis" pcik on Jews.
The Sorellian power mythos has run its course. The emerging Global South doesn't care about it and even has a much rosier view of that old villain, Adolf Hitler, with which current Western historical revision is more congruent.
Eastern leaders do not despise themselves nor their peopole like Western Elites Erdogen is head of the Muslim Brotherhood of which Hamas is part and can monilize 2 million men plus an adequate air defense and anvy to destroy Israel all by himself. If he marches, the rest will follow and america will n ot stop it. Ther is alrady a Russian army on teh Golan heights, under tricolor, not PMC.
ISrael's Final Solution to the Paleistinain QUestion may become its own.
You should edit your comment before calling something else sloppy. Those in glass towers shouldn’t throw stones. After your corrections, I will respond. As of now I can’t fully understand what you’re saying.
"Israel should never have been created in the first place." That is a ambiguous statement .
[The Abraham Accords] seem to be the best prospect because as long as Islamism exists even without a State of Israel there will be perpetual warfare along with global involvement. Maintaining a large degree Hellenistic culture seemed to have pivoted the Magian world into a higher degree of creativity .
How did the Byzantine Empire treat Jews? During that interregnum the Jews sided with the Arabian Caliphate which eventually put a Muslim stamp at the Temple Mount.
Globalism is not synonymous or no longer with Zionism [i.e., IMF] given that the globalist finances have spread out to the so-called multi-polar [?] pro- BRIC countries like China.
There is really to much to say here so these are pretty condensed points . Is the Frankfurt School a Jewish phenomenon and is it relative to the conflict here?
What I think I see happening is that corporations are investing in 3rd World countries modernizing its infrastructure which can be a threat to the countries more traditional structures . What was predicted in the book Future Shock. What would a archeo-futurist environment look like given that modernism will be a given ?
To articulate why the right shouldn’t buy into mainstream pro-Palestinian propaganda, give an alternative two state solution that doesn’t give ground to Muslims, and that one needn’t have a pro-Israeli stance to do so. Also I very clearly state that to try to displace Jews again would cause a world war surer than anything. I’m neither for or against Israel.
The divide between deism and theism is a recent phenomenon of this age. They are a continuum but by making them a dichotomy, it threw theism into a simulacrum that devolves into liberal atheism or a stasis of forms. The major monotheistic religions all share this and then point to reactions to them to blame. The divide of religious and atheist is also a false dichotomy and far more a continuum of the same simulacrum.
In what way is it an ambiguous statement? I find it very blunt.
The accords don’t do much. Ending muslim oil dependence and immigration would greatly reduce their numbers... and make them politically insignificant.
“ Maintaining a large degree Hellenistic culture seemed to have pivoted the Magian world into a higher degree of creativity.” Can you elaborate?
Zionism means different things to different people so it’s a confusing term but the way I’m using it is in the original sense. I do not think it is synonymous with globalism. The next article will be about Zionism and lol speaking of Hellenistic, I will even reference Hellenistic Jews and Maccabees in that article.
Hmmm interesting about the Frankfurt school. I would consider it an atheist phenomenon which is a direct result and reaction to the monotheistic religions… but a specifically Ashkenazi Athiest one. I see the stasis of forms of liberal atheism being a result of unique aspects to monotheism.
I think the development of nations has more to do with control for its own sake than it does with advancing technology. I’m also finishing my last article for the Lost Heroic Age series and it goes into my vision of the union between Earth and Higher Order… that we need grounding in our evolution and nature to grow technologically in a healthy manner, no longer letting it shape the creative spheres but instead utilizing it more efficiently by seperation of tech from consumption under a stratocratic federation. Should be out soon.
Modernization will be the future of the heartlands and if traditions survive it will have to fuse together with it. On the downside , to use Sri Lanka as a example, multinational corporations will have to be politically regulated as they are in Qatar . I am limited intellectually on this subject so will have to highlight my interests and concerns. Zionism is dead or whatever has been perceived of it as globalist. It is beginning to show itself to me as just another antisemitic trite statement or ends up as one. Israel in my opinion should be a one State from River to Sea and that the Abraham Accords IS the solution. I separate Israel from the liberal ADL rather than fuse it together .Israel as far as government is secular like Türkiye and probably more so . I do get the hint of materialism in some of its scholars even in esotericism.
Archeo-futurism should evolve and become something pro-active .
I would like to read Noomakhia (Three Logos and World Civilizations) complete series , I believe 25 in all however think of it as theoretical, in flux and separate it from Dugin's behaviours . These works are the keys to the multi-polar project and need to be thought out carefully.
" that we need grounding in our evolution and nature to grow technologically in a healthy manner, no longer letting it shape the creative spheres but instead utilizing it more efficiently by seperation of tech from consumption under a stratocratic federation. " . I am in agreement of a organic growth rather than a stratocratic one [ i.e., the military-industrial complex] . I am looking at Bangladesh architect Marina Tabassum in Dhaka. " she tried to fuse those “glorious lost traditions” of mosque design with contemporary architectural practices." .
The politics of today is centered on epiphenomenons , no new beginnings . I think of Gramsci 's statement.
There is nothing stratocratic about the military industrial complex of the US. Having a military isn’t synonymous with the form of leadership within a government.
This was well argued and largely expresses my own opinion on the issue. Ultimately, we gain nothing from hitching our horses, so to speak, to either end of the spectrum in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I think Guillaume Faye's advice was best that we stay neutral in that conflict as we continue to work towards our own stability and homogeneity.
Thank you. I’ve yet to read more than excerpts and articles by Faye, but from those and what others mention of his stances… he sounds amazing.
He is really is pure fire. I've been told by others who knew him better that towards the end of his life he became more sympathetic to Israel (I haven't seen that), but in his book 'Convergence of Catastrophes,' whose English edition I edited, he basically argued that taking a firm side on either end of the spectrum doesn't really help us. I think in some cases it only fractures us further into "pro-Israel" Euro nationalists and "pro-Palestinian" Euro nationalists, as if having certain feelings about events in the Middle East qualifies someone as a better or worse nationalist here at home.
We all have personal opinions and sympathies, of course, but allowing that conflict to guide our own path or activism is distracting and ultimately has little to do with our own goals.
It only helps globalism to buy into this drama and people become more invested in it than what’s happening in front of them. I’m neither for or against Israel… and they are not for me. Until they can learn to make friends instead of expect allegiance… and until they can distinguish themselves instead of always double down to protect any and all Jews even in the wrong then they are incapable of being helpful to anyone else. I will cover this in the next article and how they are so rabidly friend/enemy in distinction that all they can see or make is enemies. Zionism was founded in direct opposition to racialism ie Jews that wanted to assimilate with other Europeans. Instead they mix with other races of Jews in attempt to create a new race, with disregard or contempt for other whites.
I believe my account was removed from Twitter for no reason because I’m vocally against buying into the false dichotomy. It serves a purpose for the current paradigm to keep it going.
Please sum up what you think is the argument that you claim is well-argued.
Simply put, I think Rose demonstrated very well that both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are complicated and - crucially - *compromised* so that hard-core, doctrinal support for either side becomes unhelpful.
Are you actually proposing to expel Jews from Israel?
If that is what you get from this article, you have the reading comprehension of a retard.
Can you sum up in one sentence the purpose of this essay other than displaying your antipathy towards Jews and Muslims?
This was scattered and angry but I think I disagree with iut.
Yes, the area ha a long history of contentions but the Ottoman's mastered the art of empire or 'Schlamperie" as the Austrians called it and a multipilcity of people including Jews lived there well enough until the Madate, when waves of European Jews migrated, mostly Communists and Zionists
What we call "anti-Semtiism" toady is a clash of cultures extended into a class conflict in America, between teh "Zionist" upper classes ruling Israel and Euro-America, completely divorced from European and American masses, growing wider ever since the Epic Battle of Good and Evil in WW2.
No state compelled to iquidae 1/4 of its population has any right to exist nor does any state condoing it, muchless financing it. They have both lost their legitimacy.
The same people who brought us Muslim iimigration and "diversity" now squeal becasue some of these diverse people really don't like Jews in ways Westerners never imagined, and they are also behind teh anti-White campaign : 'Zionists" isn't the best term but the best at the moment.
White Western masses may not be Mulsim nor Arab but politically, we are "Palistinians" in our own lands, just like the Palistinians : Realpolitik.
Zionists are the common enemy.
China has united Isreal;s regional enemies as never before and the Arab militias, Hamas, Hezbollahd, Houthis, Islamic Jihad, ect, are afr more effective and giving the vaunted IDF a fight that Sclomo clearly isn't prepared for and neitrher is America, $33 trillion in debt and our Treaury Bonds not selling like they used while Saudi Arabia and China trdfe in national currencies.
The Epic Myth presribed America as "Policeman of teh World" and Bretton Wood unlimited financing to do it. : "Never Again!" would teh evil "Nazis" pcik on Jews.
The Sorellian power mythos has run its course. The emerging Global South doesn't care about it and even has a much rosier view of that old villain, Adolf Hitler, with which current Western historical revision is more congruent.
Eastern leaders do not despise themselves nor their peopole like Western Elites Erdogen is head of the Muslim Brotherhood of which Hamas is part and can monilize 2 million men plus an adequate air defense and anvy to destroy Israel all by himself. If he marches, the rest will follow and america will n ot stop it. Ther is alrady a Russian army on teh Golan heights, under tricolor, not PMC.
ISrael's Final Solution to the Paleistinain QUestion may become its own.
You should edit your comment before calling something else sloppy. Those in glass towers shouldn’t throw stones. After your corrections, I will respond. As of now I can’t fully understand what you’re saying.
Yeah, well, cliches don't help either.
What you see is what you get-sorry, but this font is difficult and this is all I am going to do with it.
Nothing of value was lost.
"Israel should never have been created in the first place." That is a ambiguous statement .
[The Abraham Accords] seem to be the best prospect because as long as Islamism exists even without a State of Israel there will be perpetual warfare along with global involvement. Maintaining a large degree Hellenistic culture seemed to have pivoted the Magian world into a higher degree of creativity .
How did the Byzantine Empire treat Jews? During that interregnum the Jews sided with the Arabian Caliphate which eventually put a Muslim stamp at the Temple Mount.
Globalism is not synonymous or no longer with Zionism [i.e., IMF] given that the globalist finances have spread out to the so-called multi-polar [?] pro- BRIC countries like China.
There is really to much to say here so these are pretty condensed points . Is the Frankfurt School a Jewish phenomenon and is it relative to the conflict here?
What I think I see happening is that corporations are investing in 3rd World countries modernizing its infrastructure which can be a threat to the countries more traditional structures . What was predicted in the book Future Shock. What would a archeo-futurist environment look like given that modernism will be a given ?
Is the writer arguing Israel should be "uncreated", like Hamas?
Can you read? You speak English?
So what is the purpose of this post?
To articulate why the right shouldn’t buy into mainstream pro-Palestinian propaganda, give an alternative two state solution that doesn’t give ground to Muslims, and that one needn’t have a pro-Israeli stance to do so. Also I very clearly state that to try to displace Jews again would cause a world war surer than anything. I’m neither for or against Israel.
Well, I still don't understand what it is you are proposing. A Muslim convert suggested nuking Israel at https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2023/12/koraniyule-2023.html but he was only joking. Would you be my guest on Koraniyule to discuss it?
What is Koraniyule?
I’m suggesting that Palestine should be given to the Copts.
The divide between deism and theism is a recent phenomenon of this age. They are a continuum but by making them a dichotomy, it threw theism into a simulacrum that devolves into liberal atheism or a stasis of forms. The major monotheistic religions all share this and then point to reactions to them to blame. The divide of religious and atheist is also a false dichotomy and far more a continuum of the same simulacrum.
Could you sum up what you were trying to say in one sentence?
In what way is it an ambiguous statement? I find it very blunt.
The accords don’t do much. Ending muslim oil dependence and immigration would greatly reduce their numbers... and make them politically insignificant.
“ Maintaining a large degree Hellenistic culture seemed to have pivoted the Magian world into a higher degree of creativity.” Can you elaborate?
Zionism means different things to different people so it’s a confusing term but the way I’m using it is in the original sense. I do not think it is synonymous with globalism. The next article will be about Zionism and lol speaking of Hellenistic, I will even reference Hellenistic Jews and Maccabees in that article.
Hmmm interesting about the Frankfurt school. I would consider it an atheist phenomenon which is a direct result and reaction to the monotheistic religions… but a specifically Ashkenazi Athiest one. I see the stasis of forms of liberal atheism being a result of unique aspects to monotheism.
I think the development of nations has more to do with control for its own sake than it does with advancing technology. I’m also finishing my last article for the Lost Heroic Age series and it goes into my vision of the union between Earth and Higher Order… that we need grounding in our evolution and nature to grow technologically in a healthy manner, no longer letting it shape the creative spheres but instead utilizing it more efficiently by seperation of tech from consumption under a stratocratic federation. Should be out soon.
Modernization will be the future of the heartlands and if traditions survive it will have to fuse together with it. On the downside , to use Sri Lanka as a example, multinational corporations will have to be politically regulated as they are in Qatar . I am limited intellectually on this subject so will have to highlight my interests and concerns. Zionism is dead or whatever has been perceived of it as globalist. It is beginning to show itself to me as just another antisemitic trite statement or ends up as one. Israel in my opinion should be a one State from River to Sea and that the Abraham Accords IS the solution. I separate Israel from the liberal ADL rather than fuse it together .Israel as far as government is secular like Türkiye and probably more so . I do get the hint of materialism in some of its scholars even in esotericism.
Archeo-futurism should evolve and become something pro-active .
I would like to read Noomakhia (Three Logos and World Civilizations) complete series , I believe 25 in all however think of it as theoretical, in flux and separate it from Dugin's behaviours . These works are the keys to the multi-polar project and need to be thought out carefully.
" that we need grounding in our evolution and nature to grow technologically in a healthy manner, no longer letting it shape the creative spheres but instead utilizing it more efficiently by seperation of tech from consumption under a stratocratic federation. " . I am in agreement of a organic growth rather than a stratocratic one [ i.e., the military-industrial complex] . I am looking at Bangladesh architect Marina Tabassum in Dhaka. " she tried to fuse those “glorious lost traditions” of mosque design with contemporary architectural practices." .
The politics of today is centered on epiphenomenons , no new beginnings . I think of Gramsci 's statement.
There is nothing stratocratic about the military industrial complex of the US. Having a military isn’t synonymous with the form of leadership within a government.