Excellent. It's so nice to see someone grasping the contours of the problem. Now I think Aristotle would not say the matter is "metaphysical," though he would insist that it is a question of form, which cannot reduce to mere codes or atomic parts.
The entire idea of DNA as a "blueprint" is obtuse to a degree that our descendants will wonder at the fact that people became so enchanted with it. Does DNA resemble a person? It's one link in a whole chain of processes - processes somehow directed by something not reducible to atoms, codes, parts.
Studying genetics opens the door to seeing races as different at a stochastic level, but this is not yet to grasp race. This is why politically "safe" scientists keep speaking about "populations" -- objects not quite objects. They want to see race in nominal terms, as if it could be otherwise just as an accidental matter. But this is absurd. Traits don't accrue as some kind of patch-up or amalgam -- they cohere purposively. When someone gets a sense of this coherence and says "white" "black" or so on, then they are "getting" race... often much better than the statisticians do.
Almost the whole of the Continent of Europe is inhabited at the present time by groups of which the basis is white, but in which the non-Aryan elements are the most numerous. There is no true civilization, among the European peoples, where the Aryan branch is not predominant. - Arthur de Gobineau
Most people are not the result of crossbreedings between two parents who were each racially pure, but of crossbreeding between hybrids and often hybrids of not two but several races. - Hans F. K. Günther
Most whites are not Aryan. For many decades Aryan element is mostly either hidden or absent due to all of the revolutions from bellow which took place. Whites are in much deeper trouble than they realize.
"The essence of a race is not transitory but immutable" I fully agree. Where I diverge with platonism is that the forms are the blueprint, the essence is not form but form stems from it. DNA can exist and not be the root or causal but a residue. The problem is looking at it as the cause. The manner in which I see evolution is not random or caused by material means or random DNA mutations but by that very immutable essence interplaying through the formation of meaning in the physical plane.
Race is a very controversial and dangerous language. As an advanced and conscious residents of the modern world, we need to avoid using languages like Race, Tribe and Ethnicity. It is advisable to use languages like White culture, white society and White societies. When we speak of White societies, we are speaking about a large group of people living in more than one continent. Language is part of the culture of a society, and white societies are not represented by one language and one culture.
Metaphysics is being qua being or what you reduce all beings (in shorthand the collection of "reality") into. Materialism reduces all objects into matter.
I'm a platonist but plato seems to espouse a sort of naive world of forms. We don't actually know if he would because he never formalized an epistemic standard like Aristotle and plato switched epistemic standards throughout his dialogues. Naive set theory is when one thinks they can make sets of anything and came up to the issue of Russell's paradox. So just because our category (race here) has material elements, that does not make the category material, much less anything but a category. Same for any elements. We can look at a shadow or some edge of a table and consider those objects but we generally don't consider those objects in themselves. A lot of early positivism tried to reify social constructs as material things simply because there were material properties or an intuition that the thing may be material. That ended up setting up the replication crisis centered on the inductive nature of empiricism. Race in genetics is generally defined by its proponents to be some arbitrary distance/closeness of gene clusters based in some arbitrary time.
Some parts of the text (an example below) sounds like as if it comes from some pagan-gnostic sect. Some groups (e.g. in Germany) has never learned that the rejection of realistic philosophy (following Aquinas and Aristotle not Plato and other idealists), as well as the rejection of the Catholic morality (which discusses e.g. the consequences of original sin) could/would lead a society to a revolution. Nazism was an example of such a (disastrous for German nation) revolution.
"Every member of our race must pay consideration to the perpetual flame. This should become some sort of religion, consolidated in prayer and rituals. Only then do the members of the race become conducive to the viatalistic force of the race soul, and be awake to the wisdom that is kept in the collective energetic information field to which every one of our forebears contributed".
“Form follows function" is a design principle that states that the shape of an object or building should be primarily determined by its intended purpose. It's a principle that's associated with architecture and industrial design but I think it can also apply to life forms, peoples or races. This implies to me that we should be asking ourselves; What is the function of the Aryan (white) race? What is our purpose?
I very much appreciate this take on the situation we are all facing. I had not thought of the metaphysical side until now. For my own part, I am leaning into the subject slowly, mostly because I was born and raised in North America, away from my racial roots. But still, I am learning a lot from writers and commenters such as yourself here and elsewhere.
The whole "genetic" angle has alway bothered me, even though I have a biology degree and was taught some basics (at the time, at least). The word itself -- genetic -- is invoked out of pure ignorance in any of the biological "sciences" when they don't know something, especially in medicine. which is fundamentally always wrong. They hide behind "it's genetic" because the whole subject is like a smoke screen; the ultimate "invisible enemy". I mean, really; "junk" DNA? Please!
Excellent. It's so nice to see someone grasping the contours of the problem. Now I think Aristotle would not say the matter is "metaphysical," though he would insist that it is a question of form, which cannot reduce to mere codes or atomic parts.
The entire idea of DNA as a "blueprint" is obtuse to a degree that our descendants will wonder at the fact that people became so enchanted with it. Does DNA resemble a person? It's one link in a whole chain of processes - processes somehow directed by something not reducible to atoms, codes, parts.
Studying genetics opens the door to seeing races as different at a stochastic level, but this is not yet to grasp race. This is why politically "safe" scientists keep speaking about "populations" -- objects not quite objects. They want to see race in nominal terms, as if it could be otherwise just as an accidental matter. But this is absurd. Traits don't accrue as some kind of patch-up or amalgam -- they cohere purposively. When someone gets a sense of this coherence and says "white" "black" or so on, then they are "getting" race... often much better than the statisticians do.
The Mainstream Media have developed a new Race. They are called "youths"
"Lunchtime rowdies" aka Lunchtimious Rowdius
Almost the whole of the Continent of Europe is inhabited at the present time by groups of which the basis is white, but in which the non-Aryan elements are the most numerous. There is no true civilization, among the European peoples, where the Aryan branch is not predominant. - Arthur de Gobineau
Most people are not the result of crossbreedings between two parents who were each racially pure, but of crossbreeding between hybrids and often hybrids of not two but several races. - Hans F. K. Günther
Most whites are not Aryan. For many decades Aryan element is mostly either hidden or absent due to all of the revolutions from bellow which took place. Whites are in much deeper trouble than they realize.
"The essence of a race is not transitory but immutable" I fully agree. Where I diverge with platonism is that the forms are the blueprint, the essence is not form but form stems from it. DNA can exist and not be the root or causal but a residue. The problem is looking at it as the cause. The manner in which I see evolution is not random or caused by material means or random DNA mutations but by that very immutable essence interplaying through the formation of meaning in the physical plane.
Just remember that Völkisch writers had the same idea and that was the eugenic science who created the biometry, precisely Karl Pearson.
Race is a very controversial and dangerous language. As an advanced and conscious residents of the modern world, we need to avoid using languages like Race, Tribe and Ethnicity. It is advisable to use languages like White culture, white society and White societies. When we speak of White societies, we are speaking about a large group of people living in more than one continent. Language is part of the culture of a society, and white societies are not represented by one language and one culture.
Metaphysics is being qua being or what you reduce all beings (in shorthand the collection of "reality") into. Materialism reduces all objects into matter.
I'm a platonist but plato seems to espouse a sort of naive world of forms. We don't actually know if he would because he never formalized an epistemic standard like Aristotle and plato switched epistemic standards throughout his dialogues. Naive set theory is when one thinks they can make sets of anything and came up to the issue of Russell's paradox. So just because our category (race here) has material elements, that does not make the category material, much less anything but a category. Same for any elements. We can look at a shadow or some edge of a table and consider those objects but we generally don't consider those objects in themselves. A lot of early positivism tried to reify social constructs as material things simply because there were material properties or an intuition that the thing may be material. That ended up setting up the replication crisis centered on the inductive nature of empiricism. Race in genetics is generally defined by its proponents to be some arbitrary distance/closeness of gene clusters based in some arbitrary time.
Some parts of the text (an example below) sounds like as if it comes from some pagan-gnostic sect. Some groups (e.g. in Germany) has never learned that the rejection of realistic philosophy (following Aquinas and Aristotle not Plato and other idealists), as well as the rejection of the Catholic morality (which discusses e.g. the consequences of original sin) could/would lead a society to a revolution. Nazism was an example of such a (disastrous for German nation) revolution.
"Every member of our race must pay consideration to the perpetual flame. This should become some sort of religion, consolidated in prayer and rituals. Only then do the members of the race become conducive to the viatalistic force of the race soul, and be awake to the wisdom that is kept in the collective energetic information field to which every one of our forebears contributed".
“Form follows function" is a design principle that states that the shape of an object or building should be primarily determined by its intended purpose. It's a principle that's associated with architecture and industrial design but I think it can also apply to life forms, peoples or races. This implies to me that we should be asking ourselves; What is the function of the Aryan (white) race? What is our purpose?
I very much appreciate this take on the situation we are all facing. I had not thought of the metaphysical side until now. For my own part, I am leaning into the subject slowly, mostly because I was born and raised in North America, away from my racial roots. But still, I am learning a lot from writers and commenters such as yourself here and elsewhere.
The whole "genetic" angle has alway bothered me, even though I have a biology degree and was taught some basics (at the time, at least). The word itself -- genetic -- is invoked out of pure ignorance in any of the biological "sciences" when they don't know something, especially in medicine. which is fundamentally always wrong. They hide behind "it's genetic" because the whole subject is like a smoke screen; the ultimate "invisible enemy". I mean, really; "junk" DNA? Please!