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Rachael  Morgan's avatar

Feelings over facts 🤨

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SH's avatar

You reference feminization of attitudes, spirituality, politics, and culture. But, I think it is more than that.

I keep thinking of the old saying - "Strong men create safe times, which creates weak men, which cause wars, which cause strong men."

And also, the actual feminization of men, through hormones being dumped in the ground water, their mothers taking hormones, hormones from abortions being filtered into the water, the hormones given to cattle, the milk of which is fed to children (and who the hell knows what is actually IN baby formula).

And there is more in this line - Women who chose a partner while on hormonal birth control may discover they are less attracted to their partner after discontinuing it, particularly if their partner was chosen when the woman was on the pill. This is because hormonal contraceptives can suppress the natural hormonal cycle, influencing what types of men women find attractive. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4260593/

But, was this an UNintended consequence? We see more and more of the androgynous looking males every day it seems. Weak, easily led, little spirituality - their weakness leads to either men causing wars to prove their masculinity (we call them neocons), being led around by more forceful women or those weak men trying to lead and failing because of something they lack which other stronger men sense and will not follow. We see a great deal of this in today's politics.

We need strong men to lead - in spirituality, in ethics and character. These were the type of men who created the US, who forged a charter and fought a war for their freedom from the rule of other weaker men; men who built skyscrapers, who built railroads, who protect their families and women. Many of these men are walking away today. They are refusing today's women and refusing to procreate with them due to the laws of a legal system that is biased against men, they say. Looking at most divorce courts, I can't say I blame them. The state of FL even had to change state laws around this due to predatory, beautiful women who were marrying simply for the payoff they could get in divorce court from successful men. Repeatedly, to many men. This was the 'career and retirement plan' of these women.

These male adherents believe modern "Western" society has become "gynocentric" (focused on women) due to feminism and that men are at risk of discrimination in legal systems and relationships. And weak men celebrate this as they think this allows them to become higher on the ladder of success. We see a great deal of this reverse discrimination in the DEI movement, which basically states, "White, straight men need not apply".

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Alanna Hartzok's avatar

This is the first Arktos Journal that I do not like. It is bad of you to criticize women gaining some equal power with men as we women have been under control of patriarchy for thousands of years. You should have a greater vision of a fair society of men and women having deep respect for each other.

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Chris's avatar

If you think that women have somehow been under the evil rule of men for thousands of years then your brainrot is so complete that you basically just need to reset everything you believe in and start from scratch.

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Alanna Hartzok's avatar

you are probably too young to know of the times when women had t write under male pen names or no one would take them seriously. one small example. only allowed to vote in 1920s, another. not allowed to own land / property, another. ad nauseum. stop your adolescent attacks on peoples views.

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Chris's avatar

"Only allowed to vote in 1920's"

Yeah I'm just going to spell it out: that was a huge mistake and should never have happened. Women have no right at all to decide in a system that was created and operated by men for organization of societies of which men are superior.

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Pythia's avatar

So you want to oppress women. Gotcha. It’s almost like your reply to me was nothing but empty BS, which is not surprising. Women pay taxes, women get the right to vote. It’s that simple. Men don’t create nor maintain societies on their own. If left up to their own devices, men would be living in shit, constantly at war with one another.

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Chris's avatar

"Women pay taxes"

Yeah I think we're done here.

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Pythia's avatar

Taxation without representation, or did you miss that lesson??

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Pythia's avatar

They have been under a particular type of oppression that is specific to their sex for thousands upon thousands of years. For men, it’s been class and race.

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Chris's avatar

Absolutely deluded. Using coded words like "oppression" "class" is just lazy.

Correct answer: Women have had to submit under the rule of men which is completely understandable since men create societies while women maintain and make them liveable. Since "individualism" is a modern concept there weren't "male" or "female" as you like to posit it. It was "the family", "the clan", "the state", "the polis", etc. As such, it's absurd to state that the goal of men was to oppress their own families. It's evolutionary incomprehensible.

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Pythia's avatar

Those aren’t coded words, they are descriptive. And sure, there is an argument to be made that men weren’t aware of the subjugation they were placing upon the women, that doesn’t erase the nature of the oppression itself. A man believing that his daughters are simply not as smart as his sons probably doesn’t believe he is oppressing his daughters. Doesn’t change a damn thing.

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James Kenny's avatar

They’ve been under the patriarchy for thousands of years because that’s a normal and healthy way to arrange society. You act as if you’ve pointed out some deep, profound fact of oppression, but really you’re just describing the natural state of things. And being a neurotic feminist, of course you catastrophize and over emphasize the “oppression” women have faced historically. Women are inferior to men and should be controlled as property.

We control women for their own good. And beyond what’s good for women, which isn’t that important, we control women for the good of the whole society more broadly, a concept that narcissistic and immature women such as yourself clearly don’t understand. When you point out that the patriarchy has controlled women for thousands of years, you’re just indirectly pointing out that women are incapable of building and maintaining civilization, hence why patriarchy has always been the default. Civilization and patriarchy are the same thing.

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Pythia's avatar

You guys think respect is owed to you while not being respectable in the slightest.

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