Discussion about this post

User's avatar
e1luka's avatar

I don’get it. I mean, I get you wanna be cooler than Clouscard and sound smarter than Derrida and Foucault combined but what’s your actual point? Karl Marx was selling justice with the ever- fashionable rhetoric of luddites and this somehow makes Soviet urbanization without favelas equivalent with Dickensian horrors of ‘industrial revolution’ because... both end in modernity? Even if you believe the 100 quadrillion victims of communism - like you seem to do - it still doesn’t make sense. What’s your end game here, Pol-Pot, Year Zero? And the existentialism stuff... Kundera went to France and saw a Jacques Tati movie - great for him, what’s then your take on Eduard Limonov? Yeah… as I said, I don’t get it

Observateur's avatar

The two forms of social organization, Soviet Communism and German National Socialism, have much in common, but the aspect that I would like to highlight is that both died of external causes. This should not allow anybody to conclude their respective social systems are not viable and that liberalism has marched victoriously over their bodies.

Both systems demonstrated a colossal power of unearthing resources of their societies and rebuilding them from the depths of a profound disaster. Their powerful propaganda was so effective that their leaders fell prey to it, unable to protect and further the successes of their initial power grab.

Born closer to the Anglo-American imperial system, still eager and capable of controlling the world, German National Socialism quickly fell prey to the machinations of the former. For this social organization to survive, it would have been enough to

(a) avoid the drive to unify the German-speaking peoples,

(b) take seriously their pact with the Soviet Union, which was an essential supplier of much-needed primary materials, and

(c) behave correctly with their minorities and avoid the national supremacist discourse.

There were enough social forces within German society that could have been attracted to participate in its construction (communists, social democrats, Catholics, and others) under the leadership of the NSDAP.

It is easy to imagine how their original leaders would have changed, or been changed, once their society had reached a higher level of development and their relationships with their neighboring countries were brought to a normal and friendly state. A key role in this would have been played by a gradual redirection of the nation's attention to future development rather than revenge and recuperation of territories.

Socialism within their own borders is the most suitable form of social organization for the European countries.

Soviet Communism demonstrated its initial vitality by winning the civil war, fending off foreign interventions, and reintegrating most of czarist Russia's territories into the Soviet Union. The immense material resources as well as the high quality of their human resources allowed the Soviet system to develop on the industrial base of czarist Russia and further it to respectable levels even before the 2nd WW. It would have been there today if the requirement of an international communism had been dropped from their propaganda at an early stage. Soviet Communism demonstrated its capacity to change; however, it was tricked into believing that change meant a friendly integration into the (dying) Anglo-American economic system (otherwise referred to as “liberalism”).

Actual Russia is a living illustration of how Soviet communism could have transformed itself. Likewise, China.

3 more comments...

No posts

Ready for more?